Torture/Porn Horror Movies

Torture/Porn Horror Movies

tonyjames's picture

First the classics,then the gore,then the massive amount of pg13 horror/suspense,now all of it is torture/porn.From Hoster 1 and 2, Wolf Creek, Captivity, Turistas, even the Saw movies. Seem everyone is getting off on watching sex and torture. What ever happened to a good villian,good story,good gore,and good scares? We need to have some more original ideas in the near future. Its going to be the same torture movies over and over again in the same style.What do you think?Let me know. TonyJames

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Wamphryi's picture

Hey tony, you make a good point, but kinda of in your first statement, that horror is always changing, so i dont think the torture trend will stick around too long. Just like there are die hard fans of the first few types of movies you mentioned there will always be a demand for the gore. I personally love all horror, and i can appreciate pretty much anything consider the hard work that goes into it. But i lean towards the demonic, possession, or bible apocolpyse movies, eg. Exorcist, Reaping, Stigmata, The Prophecy. whereas theres not alot of blood, or slashes, but its thought provoking, and thats what i like the most.

JEHambly's picture

Hostel did well. Saw did very well. These movies picked up a loyal following. Other producers will attempt to achieve the same success with a similar product. You'll notice the direct to DVD covers at Movie Gallery have a strong resemblance to Saw. The producers want to make money and toss out a product that might get the consumer to buy. So, the market is glutted with "torture porn".

If I made a movie tomorrow about a hot girl who killed her lovers after sex and the film managed to be a huge success, you could safely anticipate that within the next six months, there would be a slew of movies based "black widows" and "femme fatales".

Like all things, it will pass.

Pendark's picture

I think we have lost our innocense for such things. Where we used to cringe at the sight of tall, green, stitched corpses, or squirm a little at the notion of men changing skins and howling at the moon; it now takes a great deal more to stir us in the same way.

I, as a writer, can't discount the value of shocking imagery. But these movies drive us to something else entirely. They take us to that place within ourselves, that is base, dark, and enjoys the sound of a scream, or the sight of a trickle of blood.

The very notion of torture has been romanticized of late. The subculture, of which I have been a part, that enjoys the practices such as are associated with BDSM, places us in a dangerous position of either developing a firm set of tastes and taboos, or being completely without limits and taboos.

Those who lower their taboo threshold, even to view things like you see in these films, will find that they become a little jaded and it takes more to titilate the senses and sensibilities. Some of them lower their social taboos as well. They act in a less "tasteful" manner toward others. That, in turn leads the puritans of the world to the notion that all horror films or rock music are evil and rot your brain. Which only pisses off the rest of us and makes some of us act up just to get back at "religious people" for treating us differently.

But, I digress. The facination is in the lowering of the taboos and being witness to that thing we dare not believe really happens. In a way, it is the same childlike fear we once had at Frankenstein or the Wolf Man, it just comes from a much darker place now.

Doc Tourneau's picture

At the risk of committing Sociology, might it be that the subject of torture has been quite active in the public consciousness, connected to our current "War on Terrorism," and what our (i.e., the US) government may or may not be up to?

It's no great revelation that the horror genre, much like its cousin science-fiction, usually reflects contemporary real world concerns, albeit in a metaphorical way.

How far of a jump is it from media coverage of the events at Abu Ghraib to films like Hostel or Wolf Creek? To the ongoing debates in Washington over waterboarding to the ongoing Saw series?

Torture seems to be on the public mind these days, and voil!, all of a sudden there's all of this Torture Porn showing up in our cineplexes and DVD stores. Connect the dots...

All IMHO, of course.

Doc

Edited by Doc Tourneau on 5/7/2008 at 02:51 CST

MuffinAvenger's picture

due to the massive success of the saw and hostel franchises' directors are going to keep making films in the torture/porn fashion so they can get money the chances of a original idea for a horror movie are almost non-existent and as a super huge fan of all the horror genres i must say that i actually like the hostel films i don't think their the best horror films so i just rent them when they release but you have to respect eli roth's talent with the special effects but i've completely lost intrest in the saw franchise so just give it about saw 10 and hostel part 5 for the whole torture/porn craze to die down and then the main focus  will be on remakes of these films so let's all look forward for the un-avoidable future shall we

SleepAwayGirl89's picture

It's probably just me... but I would like to see a horror movie.... a good one.....even a just ok one.....with no sex...... make it about Amish people or something

metalgurahl's picture

I do agree that often times, horror movies are a reflection of any society's worst attributes.

In the 1980's, it was the body-culture, flash, flaire, and John Hughes movies with high school stereotypes, so along comes Jason to put an end to all those shenanigans.  We were also afraid of the Russians bombing us out of nowhere, so we created killers who struck at random and without warning.

I suppose in the 90's it was all being hip, and knowing, and looking at the old guard with almost a condescending aire.  There weren't any major wars going on, the economy was booming, so everything seemed okay.  It was cool to be a cocky know-it-all with no regard to authority.  So you had movies like Scream, I know What you Did Last Summer, and whatnot that, while being in the vein of traditional slasher movies, also dissed on them a bit by saying, "look how with-it our characters are, they know all the old tricks and they're not going to fall for them."

Nowadays its updates.  Everything is getting updated.  What can we take that's a classic and improve upon it?  We like restoring old cars, old bands are getting back together and going on tour hoping to reach new audiences.  Kids are discovering all the old bands, not by research, but because they're playing their songs on Guitar Hero.  So, no wonder all the old 80's classics are being redone.  Its not just horror movies either.

I suppose on the things about torture is the fact that there is ultimately little to nothing you can do to prevent it.  You're strapped down, possibly slightly drugged, and any attempts you make to appeal the human side of your tormentor fall on deaf ears, and possibly even encourage them.  We seem to want to see sadists more than killers.  I suppose on some level that could be due to internet anomynity allowing people to get away with saying just about anything they want without fear of physical or social reprisal.

I could call someone every racist term I could think of, and then just go off and leave the site and never come back, and at most people will get pissed off at my screenname.  Whoop-de-do.  So, that might also be a reason for torture movies.  Being able to do what you wish to someone who is completely at your mercy.

Personally, I'm not a fan of torture movies.  I didn't really like Saw or Hostel.  Wolf Creek was okay, I think it was more torturious than torture, but not my favorite either.

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