WALKING DEAD/TRIGGERFINGER

WALKING DEAD/TRIGGERFINGER

neener56's picture

Wow ok so it looks like evryones fuckin up now. Ricks dumbass tryed to peacefully talk it out with those dead people friends like a moron. THEN HE TRIES TO AMPUTATE A KIDS LEG AS THE WALKERS ARE OCMING FROM ALL SIDES????? That was completely ridiculous. I have lost an emense amount of respect for this show. And on top of that Shane lies to Lori ONCE AGAIN about rick. THis is getting more and more absurd every second it plays...

What did ya'll think?

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xnicolereneex's picture

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the show Walking Dead. I just feel like...hmm.. almost like they're not as suspensful as they used to be. It just kind of repeats a lot of things.

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neener56's picture

Well from what i can tell when i saw the sneak peak, it looks like Shanes gunna get whacked. Cant wait for that to happen.

Cassie_Carnage's picture

Really?

I thought this one was one of the best episodes of the season. A lot of action, a lot of zombies, and a heck of a lot of character development. Conversations that should've happened several episodes ago finally happen and we got to see the reason why Lori ran off like she did- she was so spooked by what Dale told her about Shane killing Otis that it made her run to find her husband. In her panic, she couldn't even focus on driving and managed to wreck her car in the process. (And hey, she finally managed to fight and kill some walkers all on her own!) 

There were other people there she could've asked to go get Rick and Hershel besides Daryl- she could've gone directly to Shane and asked him to go get them, but she didn't- because she is now afraid of him and acknowledges just how dangerous he is. I doubt that Beth's sudden illness was her real motivation to leave the farm and search for her husband, and from her point of view Dale had absolutely no reason to lie to her about what Shane did (and it wasn't a lie. He has always been the voice of reason and looked out for the safety of the group). 

Lori was on the fence about Shane, but he did lie to her in the past about Rick being dead, and he attempted to rape her at the CDC when he was drunk, then he incited the group to violence which led to the revelation that Sophia was a walker- and then Rick was the one to step up and put her down. Dale's revelation was her last straw when it came to Shane. He's obsessed with her and it's scares her more than anything else that has happened lately. I thought it was really interesting that she'd not-so-subtly ask Rick at the end of the episode if he'd kill to protect his family, and then go on to tell him how dangerous Shane really is.

As far as your comment about Rick's behavior, Rick is honest to a fault- it is one of his best, and worst qualities. He has a hard time lying to anyone (I mean come on, he felt bad when he lied to Carl about Sophia being safe when his son asked about her while his life was hanging in the balance. Bad enough to confess to him that he lied to him about it.) Rick has been in hostile situations before, as he was a cop, that he may have been able to talk his way out of, so, yes he is going to try to speak with people first. He isn't the type to shoot first and ask questions later. 

It was totally in character for him to want to help that kid- especially after his "friends" left him there to die, skewered on a wrought iron fence like a human kabab for the walkers to chomp on. To be eaten alive. Rick is not that cruel. Shane on the other hand... he would've definitely left the kid to be walker bait in order to save his own ass.

Besides, he was the only one from the group that was concerned about the welfare of their friends- he asked about their friend Sean (of whom Hershel shot and then quickly became a meal for the walkers) and didn't want to leave him behind. It's easy to see that he wasn't quite like the others, not after they left him to die like that.

It was Glenn's idea to cut off his leg, Rick just wanted to lift him off the spike of the fence. They had enough time to quickly debate about it, and then Rick rips the kid's leg up off the spike and then they get the heck out of there. (It was a means of generating more suspense in the scene to have the walkers heading their way and I think that it worked perfectly.) Hershel agreed that they could amputate- which is interesting in and of itself, because he knew exactly what to do to keep an amputee from bleeding to death in the field by cauterizing the wound.

Which leads me to believe that Hershel is not a veterinarian. Not after he shot that guy in the chest and dropped him like that, and certainly not after he discussed killing the kid and then high tailing it out of there. I think he was a war vet, and quite possibly was an Army medic. He knows far too much about human anatomy and surgical techniques to just be an animal doctor and he knows how to kill people. Plus, the hints about his past- that he was a drunk prior to his daughter being born, and that he became a pacifist- just screams to me that he used to be a soldier that drank to forget the war and then became a changed man after he became a father. 

Yes, Shane lied again. He did what he had to to get Lori into his car and back to the safety of the farm. She was injured, and he had no clue that she left to get away from him, just that she was focused on finding Rick. If it were me, I would've lied to her too in order to get her back safe. 

If you didn't notice, Lori did get pretty pissed with him about that, and brought up all the other times he's lied about significant things, such as Rick being dead, and how Otis died. 

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klownz's picture

holy shit that was one seriously deep look into it! nice one!

HELLFIGHTER's picture

I agree with Cassie. I thought it was a HELL of an episode. I know in modern times people like a "darker" hero, unless of course its YOU/ME that the "darker hero" is going to shoot rather than save. Rick harkens back to what REAL heroes are about.  Intelligence, strength of spirit/conviction, determination and standards or behavior. Hard for many in this worthless modern age to grasp. Lori was spot on about Shane and his obsession. Im surprised some of the other members of the group havent seen that even WITHOUT the benefit of the inside info. The bottom line is that regardless of saving that kid, the guy that LEFT was going to bring the rest of his group. If there is a chance of a sanctuary, those willing to take by force will go looking for it and the farm doesnt look THAT far out of town. And, like ALL bullies, Shane tries to get support by "recruiting" people (Andrea). "We are alike". In reality Shane and Andrea are NOTHING alike. Andrea would NOT kill an innocent person, much less a friend to save her own skin.

I agree there is more to Hershel than meets the eye. When in the bar and the subtle menace of the two killer assholes started to rise (incredibly, subtly, well done) BOTH Rick AND Herschel (in exchanging glances) saw the menace and danger implicitly while Glen was clueless. AND Herschel agreed 100% with Ricks handling of the situation without recriminations. And for a veternarian, he does INDEED seem to understand a lot about emergency medical care.

Shane is no longer even likeable and as I noted before, he IS obsessed, NOT in love. And he WILL use force in any way necessary to obtain his "goal". The good news IS that he is starting to believe his own hype and overestimate his skills and DRASTICALLY underestimate Ricks ability and character.

Also enjoyed Glens realizations as he doesnt seem to understand all his emotions and how they affect him. Just a wee bit soapy but its things like that which help give good reasons for behavior and insights into character.

Loved the episode.

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HELLFIGHTER's picture

BTW. . . . . . . It would be nice for them to bring Morgan and his son back into the show.

http://www.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/morgan-s1-590-284x184.jpg

rift267's picture

that would be a nice touch HF ive been waiting on that too...as far as the rick trying to amputate the dudes leg to save him....ehhh..i woulda smoked him(just to be "humane")...i mean like glen said "he was just shooting at us" y risk everyones life for him....and u gotta look at what he might bring to the table...as an amputee how much can the group benefit from him...maybe as a sentry guarding the camp...thats about it...other than that hes more a burden than anything else

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thecarpenter666's picture

rik is definatley getting the eye,, for a finale with shane ,, its coming ,,great epi!!!!

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HELLFIGHTER's picture

You aint wrong, rift. I TOO would have just put him out, but we aint heros. HOWEVER, I WOULD understand someone with a better heart than me, trying to save him. But, truthfully, I would rather pop Shane in the head than that jackass. Its gonna get interesting.

I DO agree that they just finished having a shootout at a time when peeps should band together, NOT fight each other. I would have popped him or just yanked his leg out like rick. I dont think I would have taken him to the farm. I would have taken him somewhere he could maybe take a car, bandage him, give him his gun back, let him hear a bullshit coversation about "heading east" to some make believe haven so that if he survives, he would just feed his peeps a line of shit. He would either recuperate or not in a working locked car and survive or not on his own.

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neener56's picture

Yeah bro's i have a feeling Shanes gunna get killed off next episode. From the spoliers that ive heard and the images seen in that "next time on" thing, Shanes getting the axed next episode for sure. I wont be missing him.

I would LOVE to see that black guy and his son come back. I thought they were gunna show up at the end of the first season but clearly that didnt happen. I also want Merle back NOW!

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