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ANOES: Talking Freddy Krueger's New Look with Andrew Clement

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Last June, along with several other genre journos, I had the opportunity to visit the Chicago set of Platinum Dunes A Nightmare on Elm Street reboot . You can read my full set visit report here. Below you'll find the bulk of a very revealing conversation we had with special makeup effects designer/creator Andrew Clement about the new Freddy Krueger makeup design. Among the many topics of discussion we touch on a more realistic look for Krueger's  burn and the (minimal) use of CGI. Hit the jump for our full discussion and a big thanks to my fellow journos for all of their great questions!

Q: Can you talk about your inspiration? Did you go back to the original films for the Freddy makeup?

Andrew Clement: When they first started talking about it I knew everyone had really specific ideas about what they wanted, I knew everybody would have a specific opinion on this so I knew I wanted to go into it with a really open mind. So I started off sending out different designs -- there are such a wide range of things you can do to somebody if they're burned: is it a healed burn, a fresh burn, is it dry and flaky and ashy? I just started doing different things based on all kinds of different references and I also posted up on a bulletin board pictures of every Freddy they'd ever done just to get a sense of the arc of Freddy and what people would accept as Freddy. Just to see how much leeway I really had. You know it's pretty broad. You start from the first film and then you go into how the second, third, fourth seem to look. It jumps into something really stylized, the old man, the really stylized one and everybody really accepted that as Freddy, so there's room to play.

Q: Once you started on the design, can you talk about how it evolved, what made the transition, what didn't, any ideas early on that you might have thought were great but just didn't click without everyone else?

AC: There were a lot of things I liked. I liked some of the things that I don't know that people would have had a really easy time accepting as Freddy like crusty and flaky skin coming off, all sorts of things. I brought in two other concept artists to work with me and we knocked around a lot of designs and we just sort of saw what resonated -- taking the old makeup and doing variations of that. I started back when Jackie wasn't even considered for the role and I had seen online somebody was talking about somebody else so I started doing concepts on [that person] and then Jackie came in and I started doing concepts on his face. I knew we wanted to have a CG component to it and right as we began filming we were still thinking there was going to be a larger CG component, but we started getting feedback on how the design actually looked great without it even from our first test and I think that the results and the feedback were so strong that we didn’t really need to go digital. This is plenty scary as it is just as the makeup so we pulled back on that, but we still have a digital component and it's going to look really cool.

Q: What is the digital component?

AC: Can I say?

Q: Is it the left side, cheek area?

AC: Yeah. There was going to be more of that, but we just decided to keep it down to that and I don't think you're going to see it in every shot, it's just going to be layers of skin working over one another. We're using silicone appliances this time as opposed to foam so there's a sort of mushiness to it. So I think what we're going to do is just have  more of a tendon-ness, more detail, a lot more depth than we could get from the silicone alone. It doesn't make sense that some of his face just wouldn't go away..

Q: He definitely has the smoother quality of a burn victim than the old film does which had deeper wrinkles, more of a monstrous quality -- this is much more real.

AC: Thank you. We had an actual woman who worked with burn patients who came in just to wrap him for a scene where he's in a burn ward which was actually written after I finished the makeup design -- which had I known there was going to be a burn ward, I would have had something to actually start from, but that was a later addition. But she said that it looked like a well-healed burn victim. It's funny, as subtle as it is, some of the lighting really kicks up a lot of the detail. I really tried to keep it close to his face, keep the detail subtle, but the lighting really pops up some of the forms and it looks a lot more starkly sculpted than it really is.

Q: The left side of the face looks considerably more damaged than the right side. Is there a reason behind that?

AC: I've always wanted to get an asymmetry going on. I think that's really scary. Unfortunately we did have to do some research into some tragic burn victims -- and there's a lot of asymmetry going on there -- and I just think that's interesting. A design that just makes you want to look.

Q: Is this Freddy makeup the most complicated?

AC: It takes two of us to put it on Jackie and we've got it down to three hours for the two of us. It used to be about that long, but there was only one person. The design was evolving as we were working so I wound up making more pieces than were necessary. There's just a lot of application, and we're using silicone, which is a lot more difficult to put on somebody.

Q: Can you talk about that [head] right there? (pointing to a prop head on the table)

AC: That's the zipper head of Quentin (Kyle Gallner). We're going to shoot that later today and Freddy's actually going to be inside. It's a riff on something that Sam had done previously for a Rolling Stones video that he really liked. We actually had to scale this whole thing up so Freddy could fit inside. We took a life-cast and, well, we did two things: we did a CG scan and we did a traditional life-cast and the traditional life-cast worked out great.

Q: What scale is the zipper head?

AC: Everybody is asking me that, and I lost the figure for that. I think it's about twenty percent bigger. We scaled up the clothes and everything for it. We have a hand double, too. It'll be fun.

Q: Speaking of hands, I was looking at Freddy's hands with the burns and the tapered tips. Is that a prosthetic that you added on top of his hands?

AC: They're really small. He's a burn victim, for his character I knew I was going to be adding a back-of-the-hand appliance and I thought it would be really nice, really creepy to have a tapered hand and I didn't want his fingers to get fat. I thought it would be nice if the tips were burned away a little bit. I wanted to counteract anything I would be adding so it still looked nice and spidery. They're just little rubber fingertips, all silicone.

This is a really straightforward horror film, there aren't a whole lot of gags -- Freddy doesn't turn into anything, there are no Freddy pizzas.

Q: No soul boils?

AC: You know, those are fun -- I can't say I wouldn't like to do something, you know... If this winds up going in a different direction after this one. But this is flat-out horror. It's going to be fun.

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